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Should we change it?
I don't want to.
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...Yes.
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WTF NO!!! D=
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We have to! T____T
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PostSubject: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 1:33 pm

Hello Twilight Musume..

I was recently informed there was another Twilight Musume. And I really don't know who the person is, or anything, Since the person was using a guest account.. *sighs* But we're going to have to change our name. So I wanted to ask you guys for help. So.. Just type out your ideas. ^-^ Thankies so much.

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heya. i wasnt trying to be mean or anything from the last post. i was just letting you know. especially from the person that was like you only have two videos who didnt scroll down to see that we have debuted at an anime convention two years ago and are known there as twilight musume. if this is just an online thing than its no big deal, but we actually perform and what not

Sender email address: ashley.theresa@gmail.com

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p.s. I don't know what shes really talking about..


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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 1:52 pm

It's just that I'm bothered that Twilight Musume is a SUB-UNIT while theirs is a full project so there shouldn't be anything wrong.

Sigh, but if they continueing whining(=p) about it, I guess we could change it to something.. but seriously not that much. I'm sure TMusume is okay, or just Twilight Morning< she can't say anything about that, it's different!
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 1:55 pm

BakaPai wrote:
It's just that I'm bothered that Twilight Musume is a SUB-UNIT while theirs is a full project so there shouldn't be anything wrong.

Sigh, but if they continueing whining(=p) about it, I guess we could change it to something.. but seriously not that much. I'm sure TMusume is okay, or just Twilight Morning< she can't say anything about that, it's different!
Good Idea. ^-^ I like Twilight Morning. But, yeah. ^-^ If she's really bothered by it, We'll change it. And let everyone vote on what name they want for it.

I sent her an e-mail about it just a few second ago. (I got it on January 1st. But thought they sent it to the wrong person, plus it was really confusing. And I just got what it meant right now) *sighs*

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Good day, Ashley.Theresa

As response to your message informing me of there being another Twilight Musume, I will contact Suki and we will talk about this. Thank you so much. ^-^ Sorry for this happening, and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again

Sincerilly, Keruri
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p.s Sorry for the wait!


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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 1:56 pm

What exactly does that other Twilight Musume do? Does it have forums? A website?

If we want to change it, we also change the name to twilight*musume or something like that.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 1:57 pm

Corsica wrote:
What exactly does that other Twilight Musume do? Does it have forums? A website?

If we want to change it, we also change the name to twilight*musume or something like that.
They 'perform' at Anime Conventions.. Or so what I was told.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 1:59 pm

I think this is them



But they don't even sing. =/



This too.


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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 2:01 pm

I don't think we should change it immediately.

We should have other members weigh in on this.

We might be able to alter our casing/spelling to "twilight*musume" or something unique but still keep the original name.

All we have to do to be considerate is say that "We are not related to the Twilight Musume cosplay group." It's not like they've trademarked their name.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 2:03 pm

Corsica wrote:
I don't think we should change it immediately.

We should have other members weigh in on this.

We might be able to alter our casing/spelling to "twilight*musume" or something unique but still keep the original name.

All we have to do to be considerate is say that "We are not related to the Twilight Musume cosplay group." It's not like they've trademarked their name.
Yeah.. They dance, we sing. But ehh..

Or we could go with Twilight Morning. ^-^ I liked that. And I'll talk to Suki about this too. And if she thinks we should then we will. But, we'll have to ask the members if its okee with them too! Dx
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 2:07 pm

Technically, the word "twilight" is the time before sunrise, so "Twilight Morning" won't work that well.

It's like giving a group the name "Midnight Afternoon". It sounds neat but doesn't make that much sense.


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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 2:09 pm

Corsica wrote:
Technically, the word "twilight" is the time before sunrise, so "Twlight Morning" won't work that well.

It's like giving a group the name "Midnight Afternoon". It sounds neat but doesn't make that much sense.
Its not supose to! *giggles*
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 2:15 pm

We could make our full name "Twilight Musume Fandubbing Group" or "Twilight Musume of Twilight Project" since the other group doesn't fandub.

Honestly, I feel like we're being bullied by the other group.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 3:09 pm

Corsica wrote:
We could make our full name "Twilight Musume Fandubbing Group" or "Twilight Musume of Twilight Project" since the other group doesn't fandub.

Honestly, I feel like we're being bullied by the other group.
Why do you feel that? D=
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 4:42 pm

Corsica wrote:
We could make our full name "Twilight Musume Fandubbing Group" or "Twilight Musume of Twilight Project" since the other group doesn't fandub.

Honestly, I feel like we're being bullied by the other group.
I think so too.

I stand by what I said earlier. They have three vids on their YouTube. I know, I know, they have stuff they do online, but really. (They were really rude, weren't they, when talking about my comment....). If they're offline, we're only online, what's the big deal? And really, let's be realistic; neither of our groups are going to become big. We're not going to get discovered by Tsunku, and we're not going to last forever. So what's the big deal?

These guys aren't being really fair. How were we supposed to know of this Twilight Musume, especially since they have only three vids on their YouTube. Their vids are really dated, too, over a year old. So really, how were we supposed to know?

There's room enough on the interwebs for there to be two Twilight Musumes, especially since one is a dancing group and one is a singing group. I don't think we should change it.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 5:01 pm

writerserenyty wrote:
Corsica wrote:
We could make our full name "Twilight Musume Fandubbing Group" or "Twilight Musume of Twilight Project" since the other group doesn't fandub.

Honestly, I feel like we're being bullied by the other group.
I think so too.

I stand by what I said earlier. They have three vids on their YouTube. I know, I know, they have stuff they do online, but really. (They were really rude, weren't they, when talking about my comment....). If they're offline, we're only online, what's the big deal? And really, let's be realistic; neither of our groups are going to become big. We're not going to get discovered by Tsunku, and we're not going to last forever. So what's the big deal?

These guys aren't being really fair. How were we supposed to know of this Twilight Musume, especially since they have only three vids on their YouTube. Their vids are really dated, too, over a year old. So really, how were we supposed to know?

There's room enough on the interwebs for there to be two Twilight Musumes, especially since one is a dancing group and one is a singing group. I don't think we should change it.
Then I agree. ^-^ We won't change it, if they continue to whine about it.. Then we'll have no other choice but to block their I.P addresses, and ask them nicely to move on. ^-^
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 04, 2009 6:18 pm

Well, I really don't mind either way. If anyone of you feel so strongly that we shouldn't change our name then we shouldn't. ^^ Doesn't bother me. But if we were to change our name we could just go with the Japanese word for Twilight. Reimei. (XD I had to edit this cause I accidently typed Kanashimi. -__-' Guess you know I have Kanashimi Twilight on the brain.)

Reimei Musume.. .____. That really doesn't have a ring to it does it? >.<

But, then again. It kinda messes up the whole "Twilight" thing we have going on....Well, sorta. XD I'm just confusing myself.

We'll still have the same meaning. Just the word won't be in English. We'll still be Twilight Daughters. .__. Has someone already suggested this? o.O XD If so.. Just ignore me.. Actually.. IGNORE ME ANYWAYS!

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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 04, 2009 7:43 pm

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Well, I really don't mind either way. If anyone of you feel so strongly that we shouldn't change our name then we shouldn't. ^^ Doesn't bother me. But if we were to change our name we could just go with the Japanese word for Twilight. Reimei. (XD I had to edit this cause I accidently typed Kanashimi. -__-' Guess you know I have Kanashimi Twilight on the brain.)

Reimei Musume.. .____. That really doesn't have a ring to it does it? >.<

But, then again. It kinda messes up the whole "Twilight" thing we have going on....Well, sorta. XD I'm just confusing myself.

We'll still have the same meaning. Just the word won't be in English. We'll still be Twilight Daughters. .__. Has someone already suggested this? o.O XD If so.. Just ignore me.. Actually.. IGNORE ME ANYWAYS!

Don't listen to this weird girls rambles! RUN AWAY!

**giggles** that is pretty smart^^ no noone else said that
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 05, 2009 3:05 am

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Sakura wrote:
Well, I really don't mind either way. If anyone of you feel so strongly that we shouldn't change our name then we shouldn't. ^^ Doesn't bother me. But if we were to change our name we could just go with the Japanese word for Twilight. Reimei. (XD I had to edit this cause I accidently typed Kanashimi. -__-' Guess you know I have Kanashimi Twilight on the brain.)

Reimei Musume.. .____. That really doesn't have a ring to it does it? >.<

But, then again. It kinda messes up the whole "Twilight" thing we have going on....Well, sorta. XD I'm just confusing myself.

We'll still have the same meaning. Just the word won't be in English. We'll still be Twilight Daughters. .__. Has someone already suggested this? o.O XD If so.. Just ignore me.. Actually.. IGNORE ME ANYWAYS!

Don't listen to this weird girls rambles! RUN AWAY!

**giggles** that is pretty smart^^ no noone else said that

*smirks then laughs maniacially* I KNOW! IT IS BECAUSE I AM THE GENIUS SAKURA AND I AM BETTER THAN YOU ALL!!! Just kidding~ ^^ I'm just one of those weird people that thinks of those types of things~ Well, Reimei Musume does have a ring to it if you pronounce Musume correctly! Oh well~ We probably just shouldn't change. It's not like those non-talented girls copywrited or whatever. And it's like you can. We're fan-based groups. We're not making money off of this. If they wanna get in a tiff about they can. It's not like we should care. They just need to get over themselves. We're just having fun. This isn't serious or anything Yeesh. Take a chill pill and chillax, much.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 05, 2009 2:49 pm

Sakura wrote:
Well, I really don't mind either way. If anyone of you feel so strongly that we shouldn't change our name then we shouldn't. ^^ Doesn't bother me. But if we were to change our name we could just go with the Japanese word for Twilight. Reimei. (XD I had to edit this cause I accidently typed Kanashimi. -__-' Guess you know I have Kanashimi Twilight on the brain.)

Reimei Musume.. .____. That really doesn't have a ring to it does it? >.<

But, then again. It kinda messes up the whole "Twilight" thing we have going on....Well, sorta. XD I'm just confusing myself.

We'll still have the same meaning. Just the word won't be in English. We'll still be Twilight Daughters. .__. Has someone already suggested this? o.O XD If so.. Just ignore me.. Actually.. IGNORE ME ANYWAYS!

Don't listen to this weird girls rambles! RUN AWAY!
*giggles* Kanashimi? XD Sadness? *giggles again* I think we're just gunna keep it... If they continue to harrass us.. then we will block their Ips. ^-^ I already blocked one of them. <33
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 05, 2009 2:51 pm

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Suki wrote:
Sakura wrote:
Well, I really don't mind either way. If anyone of you feel so strongly that we shouldn't change our name then we shouldn't. ^^ Doesn't bother me. But if we were to change our name we could just go with the Japanese word for Twilight. Reimei. (XD I had to edit this cause I accidently typed Kanashimi. -__-' Guess you know I have Kanashimi Twilight on the brain.)

Reimei Musume.. .____. That really doesn't have a ring to it does it? >.<

But, then again. It kinda messes up the whole "Twilight" thing we have going on....Well, sorta. XD I'm just confusing myself.

We'll still have the same meaning. Just the word won't be in English. We'll still be Twilight Daughters. .__. Has someone already suggested this? o.O XD If so.. Just ignore me.. Actually.. IGNORE ME ANYWAYS!

Don't listen to this weird girls rambles! RUN AWAY!

**giggles** that is pretty smart^^ no noone else said that

*smirks then laughs maniacially* I KNOW! IT IS BECAUSE I AM THE GENIUS SAKURA AND I AM BETTER THAN YOU ALL!!! Just kidding~ ^^ I'm just one of those weird people that thinks of those types of things~ Well, Reimei Musume does have a ring to it if you pronounce Musume correctly! Oh well~ We probably just shouldn't change. It's not like those non-talented girls copywrited or whatever. And it's like you can. We're fan-based groups. We're not making money off of this. If they wanna get in a tiff about they can. It's not like we should care. They just need to get over themselves. We're just having fun. This isn't serious or anything Yeesh. Take a chill pill and chillax, much.
Agree. ^-^ Y-You seem like a really nice girl! *glomps* Friends~?
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT. PLEASE READ.   URGENT. PLEASE READ. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 05, 2009 7:53 pm

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Well, I really don't mind either way. If anyone of you feel so strongly that we shouldn't change our name then we shouldn't. ^^ Doesn't bother me. But if we were to change our name we could just go with the Japanese word for Twilight. Reimei. (XD I had to edit this cause I accidently typed Kanashimi. -__-' Guess you know I have Kanashimi Twilight on the brain.)

Reimei Musume.. .____. That really doesn't have a ring to it does it? >.<

But, then again. It kinda messes up the whole "Twilight" thing we have going on....Well, sorta. XD I'm just confusing myself.

We'll still have the same meaning. Just the word won't be in English. We'll still be Twilight Daughters. .__. Has someone already suggested this? o.O XD If so.. Just ignore me.. Actually.. IGNORE ME ANYWAYS!

Don't listen to this weird girls rambles! RUN AWAY!

**giggles** that is pretty smart^^ no noone else said that

*smirks then laughs maniacially* I KNOW! IT IS BECAUSE I AM THE GENIUS SAKURA AND I AM BETTER THAN YOU ALL!!! Just kidding~ ^^ I'm just one of those weird people that thinks of those types of things~ Well, Reimei Musume does have a ring to it if you pronounce Musume correctly! Oh well~ We probably just shouldn't change. It's not like those non-talented girls copywrited or whatever. And it's like you can. We're fan-based groups. We're not making money off of this. If they wanna get in a tiff about they can. It's not like we should care. They just need to get over themselves. We're just having fun. This isn't serious or anything Yeesh. Take a chill pill and chillax, much.

HaiHai!! Sakura is the best^^ yay!
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Keruri wrote:
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Well, I really don't mind either way. If anyone of you feel so strongly that we shouldn't change our name then we shouldn't. ^^ Doesn't bother me. But if we were to change our name we could just go with the Japanese word for Twilight. Reimei. (XD I had to edit this cause I accidently typed Kanashimi. -__-' Guess you know I have Kanashimi Twilight on the brain.)

Reimei Musume.. .____. That really doesn't have a ring to it does it? >.<

But, then again. It kinda messes up the whole "Twilight" thing we have going on....Well, sorta. XD I'm just confusing myself.

We'll still have the same meaning. Just the word won't be in English. We'll still be Twilight Daughters. .__. Has someone already suggested this? o.O XD If so.. Just ignore me.. Actually.. IGNORE ME ANYWAYS!

Don't listen to this weird girls rambles! RUN AWAY!

**giggles** that is pretty smart^^ no noone else said that

*smirks then laughs maniacially* I KNOW! IT IS BECAUSE I AM THE GENIUS SAKURA AND I AM BETTER THAN YOU ALL!!! Just kidding~ ^^ I'm just one of those weird people that thinks of those types of things~ Well, Reimei Musume does have a ring to it if you pronounce Musume correctly! Oh well~ We probably just shouldn't change. It's not like those non-talented girls copywrited or whatever. And it's like you can. We're fan-based groups. We're not making money off of this. If they wanna get in a tiff about they can. It's not like we should care. They just need to get over themselves. We're just having fun. This isn't serious or anything Yeesh. Take a chill pill and chillax, much.
Agree. ^-^ Y-You seem like a really nice girl! *glomps* Friends~?

^0^ Of course friends!! We'll be like.. The 3 Amigos! Wait.. Weren't their four of them? O.o >...> Uhh... *shoots one with arrow* ^^ Noowww there are 3 of them!! Anyways! We should just keep it~ .O. They ish harassing you?????? LET ME AT THEM!!! I'LL RANT (since apparently someone likes it edit my post and put 'bish' were b*tch should be. *smiles forcefully* No, I am not very happy about that. If you do not wish for me to curse, please tell me and I will edit it MYSELF) THEM OUT!!! RAWR!! SAKU-SAKU ATTACKKKKK!!!!
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Sakura wrote:
Keruri wrote:
Sakura wrote:
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Well, I really don't mind either way. If anyone of you feel so strongly that we shouldn't change our name then we shouldn't. ^^ Doesn't bother me. But if we were to change our name we could just go with the Japanese word for Twilight. Reimei. (XD I had to edit this cause I accidently typed Kanashimi. -__-' Guess you know I have Kanashimi Twilight on the brain.)

Reimei Musume.. .____. That really doesn't have a ring to it does it? >.<

But, then again. It kinda messes up the whole "Twilight" thing we have going on....Well, sorta. XD I'm just confusing myself.

We'll still have the same meaning. Just the word won't be in English. We'll still be Twilight Daughters. .__. Has someone already suggested this? o.O XD If so.. Just ignore me.. Actually.. IGNORE ME ANYWAYS!

Don't listen to this weird girls rambles! RUN AWAY!

**giggles** that is pretty smart^^ no noone else said that

*smirks then laughs maniacially* I KNOW! IT IS BECAUSE I AM THE GENIUS SAKURA AND I AM BETTER THAN YOU ALL!!! Just kidding~ ^^ I'm just one of those weird people that thinks of those types of things~ Well, Reimei Musume does have a ring to it if you pronounce Musume correctly! Oh well~ We probably just shouldn't change. It's not like those non-talented girls copywrited or whatever. And it's like you can. We're fan-based groups. We're not making money off of this. If they wanna get in a tiff about they can. It's not like we should care. They just need to get over themselves. We're just having fun. This isn't serious or anything Yeesh. Take a chill pill and chillax, much.
Agree. ^-^ Y-You seem like a really nice girl! *glomps* Friends~?

^0^ Of course friends!! We'll be like.. The 3 Amigos! Wait.. Weren't their four of them? O.o >...> Uhh... *shoots one with arrow* ^^ Noowww there are 3 of them!! Anyways! We should just keep it~ .O. They ish harassing you?????? LET ME AT THEM!!! I'LL RANT (since apparently someone likes it edit my post and put 'bish' were b*tch should be. *smiles forcefully* No, I am not very happy about that. If you do not wish for me to curse, please tell me and I will edit it MYSELF) THEM OUT!!! RAWR!! SAKU-SAKU ATTACKKKKK!!!!

**giggles** Sakura u are funny^^
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Ummm.... I'm not in Twilight Musume(any of them for that matter) but I think that IF that is them, the girl shouldn't be complaining, ANYONE could go to an anime convention and sing under a name, it's not like they're super famous, and if she thinks they are just from performing at a convention, then she's quite deluded... I wouldn't want to watch them live... No one here has ever heard of that group nor do they really care, it's not copyrighted nor is it a real H!P group... and I know this is really mean to say, but it pisses me off when people like that complain and right now, I'm going to say, that they will NEVER be famous from those performances. Media's a bish and chooses the best of the best, performing at a convention is nowhere near best of the best. Heck! I performed at a convention, does that make me famous? No~ and if someone like me doesn't mind stuff like that when I've pretty much gone through the WHOLE thing that they just did, then what I say, should be... logically correct. Those bishes need to "F" off and leave you alone Suki, take my advice and don't change the name~ if that's them in those two vids, then they practically don't even have the right to say anything like that to you~
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Ummm.... I'm not in Twilight Musume(any of them for that matter) but I think that IF that is them, the girl shouldn't be complaining, ANYONE could go to an anime convention and sing under a name, it's not like they're super famous, and if she thinks they are just from performing at a convention, then she's quite deluded... I wouldn't want to watch them live... No one here has ever heard of that group nor do they really care, it's not copyrighted nor is it a real H!P group... and I know this is really mean to say, but it pisses me off when people like that complain and right now, I'm going to say, that they will NEVER be famous from those performances. Media's a bish and chooses the best of the best, performing at a convention is nowhere near best of the best. Heck! I performed at a convention, does that make me famous? No~ and if someone like me doesn't mind stuff like that when I've pretty much gone through the WHOLE thing that they just did, then what I say, should be... logically correct. Those bishes need to "F" off and leave you alone Suki, take my advice and don't change the name~ if that's them in those two vids, then they practically don't even have the right to say anything like that to you~

Thank you Chiemi! **hugs**
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Ummm.... I'm not in Twilight Musume(any of them for that matter) but I think that IF that is them, the girl shouldn't be complaining, ANYONE could go to an anime convention and sing under a name, it's not like they're super famous, and if she thinks they are just from performing at a convention, then she's quite deluded... I wouldn't want to watch them live... No one here has ever heard of that group nor do they really care, it's not copyrighted nor is it a real H!P group... and I know this is really mean to say, but it pisses me off when people like that complain and right now, I'm going to say, that they will NEVER be famous from those performances. Media's a bish and chooses the best of the best, performing at a convention is nowhere near best of the best. Heck! I performed at a convention, does that make me famous? No~ and if someone like me doesn't mind stuff like that when I've pretty much gone through the WHOLE thing that they just did, then what I say, should be... logically correct. Those bishes need to "F" off and leave you alone Suki, take my advice and don't change the name~ if that's them in those two vids, then they practically don't even have the right to say anything like that to you~

Thank you Chiemi! **hugs**

*snugs* No worries, they'd better hope it doesn't happen again or that group will be sneered at all over Hawaii >D
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